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hello I'm doctor David Clark UFO expert

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and lecturer in journalism at Sheffield

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Hallam University in October 2008 the

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National Archives are opening a

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collection of UFO material transferred

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from the Ministry of Defence under the

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Freedom of Information Act it's the

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second release of UFO FILES this year

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and it's the part of a three to four

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year transfer of some 160 files in all

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and this particular collection contains

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somewhere in the region of 4,500

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separate pages of material and some 19

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files in all I'm going to be showing

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some of the highlights from this

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material and to see the the files go to

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the National Archives website National

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Archives gov dot UK forward slash UFOs

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one of the key highlights from these

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files is a report from April 1991 this

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involved a near-miss between an Italian

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airliner and a UFO in the skies over

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Kent the report was made to the Civil

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Aviation Authority and the pilot

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described in his official report the

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missile shaped object beige in color

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that some that have moved from east to

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west across his field of vision from the

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cockpit and he was so surprised when he

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saw this thing that he called out to his

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co-pilot look out look out and the

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copilot also saw this strange object and

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immediately they contacted air traffic

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control and said do you see anything and

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they said yeah we see an object behind

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the aircraft quite clearly primary

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return this incident was investigated by

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the Ministry of Defence and also by the

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Civil Aviation Authority and they

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checked to see if any real missile had

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been fired

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perhaps by one of the army ranges or

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from a ship at sea ruled out all the

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usual explanations and the end result

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was that this was a genuine UFO and the

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file was simply closed there was nothing

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more they could do

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the report by the Italian air crew was

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just the first of a series of similar

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incidents reported to the MRD in 1991

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there were two other near myths

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incidents in the same year with a month

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separating them the first one in June

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1991 there was a report from four

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passengers in a 737 enroute from Gatwick

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to Hamburg and they reported seeing

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something which they described as a wing

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blast projectile flying beneath the

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aircraft as they were taking off they

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reported this to the pilot and the the

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incident was reported back to the

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Ministry of Defense and civil aviation

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authority for an investigation while the

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investigation was going on in July 1991

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there was another report made by the

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crew of a 737 that was descending into

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Gatwick over the English countryside and

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they reported seeing something which

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they described as a a dark Laden shaped

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object zooming by the side of the

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aircraft this again was reported to air

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traffic control and air traffic control

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confirmed that they had what they

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described as a primary contact on radar

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and they were so concerned about this

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thing that they warned another aircraft

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that was descending behind the 737 to

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take evasive action and this aircraft

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turned to the left to avoid this

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unidentified object and it appeared to

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be heading towards the aircraft

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initially but then turned away the

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captain of the second aircraft didn't

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actually report seeing anything visually

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now there was a full investigation of

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both these incidents one of them was

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officially reported as a near-miss and

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they were unable to explain what had

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been seen the best guess that they could

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make was that possibly what been seen in

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these two cases was some kind of balloon

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perhaps a meteorological balloon or

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perhaps a toy balloon but again there's

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a huge question mark over what this

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particular UFO may have been

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now we've looked at cases in these files

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where the crews of civil airliners have

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reported near misses with UFOs but there

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are also a few incidents in these files

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where military pilots fighter pilots

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have reported mysterious objects things

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that have been seen on radar and

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sometimes visually now the most

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important pressive case in this

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particular collection actually happened

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at the height of the Cold War one dark

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night either in 1956 or 1957 and the

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reason this case didn't emerge until the

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1980s was that the the pilot involved

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was a member of the United a United

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States Air Force and 406 fighter bomber

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wing he didn't actually talk about what

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had happened until 32 years later when

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he returned to the to the base RAF

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Munson in Kent where the incident

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occurred and he was there for a reunion

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and he met up with some of his

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colleagues from that time and they

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started talking about their and their

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experiences now on this particular night

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again we need to remember this was right

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at the height of the Cold War shortly

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after the Suez Crisis the invasion of

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Hungary he was on 24-hour alert ready to

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be scrambled in case there was any

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hostile movements of Soviet aircraft and

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on this particular night he was ordered

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scramble a short notice sometime around

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midnight it was a very dark night

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typical English weather and he was

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scrambled to a position which he recalls

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has been 32,000 feet over the East

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Anglian countryside and he was told by

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an RAF ground controller that they had

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been watching a mysterious object

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mysterious movements on radar for some

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time and he be being sent to intercept

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this thing and find out what it was an

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unusual mission mission in some respects

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but it was to get even stranger he was

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guided to where this thing was seen on

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radar from the ground and when he got

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within 50 miles of this mysterious

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object his own airborne radar was then

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able to lock onto it and he turned

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towards it he was thought he was asked

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to see if he could see anything visually

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he peered out of the cockpit but he

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could see nothing just dark clouds he

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got within 50 miles of this thing

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it got a lock on

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on his radar and he said that this thing

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was very very clear on his radar scope

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it was huge the size of a b-52 bomber

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absolutely no doubt that there was

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something there now the next thing that

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happened he was ordered from the ground

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to arm his aircraft and and fire a full

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salvo of his rockets and I had 24 of

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these things quite deadly weapons and he

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was he was really really surprised and

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shocked to be told to do this because he

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had never before been ordered to shoot

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anything down it's particularly an

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aircraft that was unidentified remember

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this was over East Anglia at the time

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very very unusual so he queried the

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order and within a few seconds this was

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confirmed from the ground and as he was

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selecting his weapons this thing that

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he'd captured on his on his radar

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suddenly started moving disappeared from

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the scope and he reported this back to

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his ground control and they said yes

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it's disappeared from a scope as well in

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two sweeps of the radar going at some

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fantastic speed that was the end of the

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mission far as he was concerned he

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returned to RAF Manston and spoke to

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ground control they said that he would

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be debriefed the next day someone

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arrived from London quite clearly

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another American someone from one of the

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the national security agencies and he

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was basically told in no uncertain terms

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that what what he'd seen on his radar

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was a top secret and he wasn't to speak

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about it to anyone and he was warned

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that if he did break this his security

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oath he will be grounded and for a pilot

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that was the worst thing that could

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happen so he basically kept kept his

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quiet for 32 years and it wasn't until

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1988 they finally decided to talk about

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it now when this reached the media and

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ufologists a ufologist in Manchester

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wrote to the mo D and wanted to wanted

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to find out what official records were

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kept on this particular incident and of

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emod

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according to these papers actually went

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to have a look in the archives and they

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found that unfortunately all the records

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before 1962 about UFO incidents had been

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destroyed so they could not give an

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explanation as to what had been seen

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they advised the Enquirer to contact the

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United States Air Force archives which

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he did and they again said there was no

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records with

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ever heard of this incident but there's

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no doubt that something very unusual

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happened was it really a UFO was it a

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some kind of Soviet aircraft that had

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been seen if so who gave the orders to

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fire on it and why the only other

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possible explanation is that maybe and

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the pilot was involved in some kind of

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experiment involving electronic warfare

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because we now know cuz the CIA have

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admitted this that they did have a

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program in the 1960s called palladium

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which in vote which involved the

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creation of phantom aircraft on radar

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and this was done basically to fool the

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Russians and so that they could test the

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capabilities of Russian radar systems

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and so maybe there's a remote

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possibility that perhaps what this pilot

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had seen was some kind of experiment in

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electronic warfare or maybe it was a UFO

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I hope you have enjoyed my video

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documentary if you'd like to examine

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some of these UFO reports in more detail

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please go to the National Archives

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website which is National Archives gov

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UK forward slash UFOs